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- From: Tom Wheeley <tomw@tsys.demon.co.uk>
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.object,comp.software-eng
- Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 01:41:44 GMT
- Organization: City Zen FM
- Message-ID: <827890904snz@tsys.demon.co.uk>
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- In article <4j7gdp$cl7@solutions.solon.com>
- seebs@solutions.solon.com "Peter Seebach" writes:
-
- > In article <827765484snz@tsys.demon.co.uk>,
- > Tom Wheeley <tomw@tsys.demon.co.uk> wrote:
- > >Surely you have just proved that the standard library is _not_ part of the
- > >C language. At the risk of seeming -pedantic, I would say that the standard
- > >library is a part of the _standard C *implementation*_, but not a part of
- > >the standard C *language*.
- >
- > Nope. "This International Standard specifies and establishes the
- > interpretation of programs written in the C programming language." What
- > it specifies is C.
-
- OK, I'll try and rephrase my thoughts:
-
- I consider the standard library, and the basic syntax of C to be slightly
- separate entities, combined into the C Programming Language. By syntax I
- mean everything that doesn't have () at the end of it. Maybe I'm just stating
- the obvious now, and losing the point altogether, I'm not sure :)
-
- >
- > >That is why you can build the standard library within C -- you cannot write
- > >the entire standard library using the standard library, therefore if the
- > >standard library is a part of the C language, then the standard library is
- > >no longer written in the C language, but only a limited subset thereof.
- >
- > You cannot write the standard library in C; at least, not completely. You
-
- Yes, I have read yours (and Kazimir's (sp?) follow-ups), and I err, retract
- that argumant as making no sense :)
-
- .splitbung
- --
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